Podcast — 18 Minutes

Episode 35: Retrogaming – Nintendo 64

Podcast — 18 Minutes

Episode 35: Retrogaming – Nintendo 64

Kaede hosts and Jacob and Spencer join in for the first ANN retrograming episode. (Does using emulators kill the experience?)

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Kaede: In the WhatsApp, I’m Kaede from the Autism News NetWORK. And I’m here with Jacob.

Jacob: Hi everybody.

Kaede: I’m here with Spencer.

Spencer: Hi.

Kaede: And I’m also here with Lee as our sound engineer. He may pop in with some ideas or something.

Lee: What’s up?

Kaede: Alright. For now, the subject will be Nintendo 64, if that’s okay.

Spencer: That’s actually fair enough.

Jacob: That could be the subject if you’d like.

Kaede: Oh yes. Anyway, I played Nintendo 64. My brother Harrison, he’s had a Nintendo 64 ever since he was a kid and he wouldn’t let me play it when he first got it, because it was brand new and I was just a little kid. And nowadays, the Nintendo 64 has gone extinct, but the games have been renewed on the Nintendo Switch.

Spencer: Yeah. Under like some membership app or?

Kaede: Yeah, probably.

Spencer: Yeah. I think that’s what I’ve heard is that Nintendo officially released them on some app only for the Nintendo 64.

Jacob: And Nintendo 64s are impossible to find now because they’re so old.

Kaede: Yes. But there’s also emulators, which is great. I have a Nintendo 64 emulator called Project 64 on my computer and you can play any Nintendo 64 game with Project 64 on your computer. Especially if you have a controller or something, I use a PS4 controller or something.

Spencer: That just takes the fun out of it in my opinion.

Kaede: What do you mean?

Spencer: Oh, reason why I say that is because I just feel like you’re cheated out of the original, authentic experience. Hence the reason why I still use my Nintendo 64 as the only real, and I put that in quotation marks, real way of playing any or all games released on the Nintendo 64.

Kaede: I understand. But I think there is such thing as USB Nintendo 64 controllers.

Spencer: It could be possible, yeah. But honestly, like I said, I’d be cheating myself out of the original, authentic experience.

Kaede: Yeah. I totally understand. But for nostalgic reasons I use emulators and I’d say that whoever invented emulators is such a brilliant genius, especially if they’re nostalgic like me and other people too.

Spencer: Yeah. Don’t get me wrong, I can be very nostalgic when it comes to playing any game on the Nintendo 64. But honestly, as a kid, I always preferred to use the first PlayStation over anything else. My thing, because that’s just in my opinion, technologically superior in some ways over Nintendo 64 itself.

Kaede: Yeah. And also Nintendo 64 had some sort of odd controller set up, which was kind of hard to use for some people.

Jacob: I used to have a Nintendo 64 years ago, but I donated that.

Kaede: Oh wow.

Jacob: I also had a PS2, but I donated that after I got a Nintendo Switch.

Kaede: Oh, wow.

Spencer: Yeah. Honestly I still have my Nintendo 64.

Kaede: Yeah I do too. But we don’t play it anymore.

Spencer: On rare occasions, I do play it. And if I do, then it would be one of the very first Mario Party games I ever played, that being Mario Party 3.

Kaede: Yeah. And does anybody have any favorites on Nintendo 64?

Spencer: Honestly, I don’t truly play a lot of games on Nintendo 64 growing up. And because of that, I really can’t decide on what is my all time favorite.

Kaede: Well, I can tell you what mine was.

Jacob: Well what’s that?

Kaede: One of mine was Banjo-Kazooie. It’s a rare masterpiece. I love rare games.

Spencer: Yeah. I could see why.

Kaede: Yeah. Because Banjo-Kazooie is such a good game.

Spencer: Yeah. That’s actually one of the games that first introduced me to open world platforming.

Kaede: Yeah.

Spencer: That and along with Super Mario 64.

Kaede: Oh yeah. I remember that game too.

Spencer: I mean, don’t get me wrong. Both of those games are fun in their own right. But honestly, I can’t really decide between the two games.

Kaede: I understand.

Spencer: To this day. I still own Banjo-Kazooie but I hardly ever play it now. Not exactly sure why though. Oh yeah. That’s right. Like I said, personal preferences, personally, still play the first PlayStation to this day and oh gosh. Trying to think of another reason why. I think it’s like what you said earlier, the controllers just were shaped so weird though.

Kaede: Yeah. I remember that. They’re kind of oddly shaped, but I don’t mean to make fun of anybody. Not even Nintendo. Cause they’re a good company.

Jacob: They’re one of the best companies in the world.

Kaede: Yes, they really are.

Spencer: I always thought of them as the more innovative companies.

Kaede: Yeah?

Spencer: Yeah. I mean, don’t get me wrong, they can make great games, but actually no, I think I’ll just leave it at that. They do make great games. But they can make great games. That’s what I’m trying to say.

Kaede: Yeah. They make awesome games.

Jacob: They make the best Mario games.

Kaede: Yeah. And they’re the inventor of Mario games.

Jacob: They make the best Sonic games.

Spencer: Sonic is owned by Sega.

Kaede: Yeah. But they adopted Sega for Super Smash Brothers Brawl.

Spencer: Never knew that. I mean, that Sega and Nintendo kind of came to an agreement.

Jacob: Yeah. I was referring to that.

Spencer: Yeah. Along with Mario and Sonic at the Olympic games franchise.

Kaede: Yeah.

Spencer: But when it comes to adopting one or the other, I just never knew that.

Kaede: Yeah. Anyway, I’m trying to think of another thing to talk about in [inaudible 00:06:38] Oh, GameShark. I remember doing a little comic about how to use the GameShark, if anybody knows what that is.

Spencer: I do, but I think that my brother owned that at one point for either the GameBoy Color or the GameBoy Advance.

Jacob: I’ve never heard of the GameShark. What’s that?

Kaede: It’s like a cheating thing where you can play, where you can just screw around with it, and add cheats and stuff.

Spencer: Yeah.

Kaede: Like for example, you could levitate and run fast. I did a little comic based off Banjo-Kazooie, on how to use the GameShark, but I didn’t know how it was used correctly. I did that comic me after watching a video about how to use the GameShark in Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

Spencer: Like I said, I only used it on the GameBoy. I can’t remember which, but I know that I used one of my very first Pokemon games on one of the consoles. And I think that you were right though. Because I can’t exactly remember, but I think that I wanted to complete my Pokedex at the time.

Kaede: I understand. And some people cheat just to get through the game or have fun and stuff.

Spencer: Huh.

Kaede: Well, levitation cheat is one of my favorites. It’s pretty funny. Especially in Banjo because then when Banjo goes, he goes, [inaudible 00:08:10]. He just does a slippery fall. I love that animation when he goes upwards like that. It’s so funny. Banjo-Kazooie is a masterpiece. And also, Project 64 is a good emulator for Nintendo 64 games. I play it on my computer and I also use a controller to play the Nintendo 64 games.

Spencer: Yeah. I’m sure that using a different controller from the Nintendo 64 is easier.

Kaede: There are some funny glitches in Nintendo 64 games. Some of the glitches can be pretty useful too.

Jacob: I see.

Kaede: Yeah, like on Donkey Kong 64, where you have to get a golden banana and it’s in a time limit. There’s this glitch called Chunky’s Hive I think. You have to be big Chunky in it and he falls through the ceiling and a banana. He falls through the level and he makes it to the platform I think. I don’t remember exactly how it went, but I think you have to be big Chunky and you have to jump onto the hive where Tiny goes into and they eventually fall through it. It’s a pretty useful glitch.

Jacob: Yeah. Those Nintendo 64 games get upgraded to different versions on the Nintendo Switch.

Kaede: Yeah. And there are some also other unique Nintendo 64 games like Conker’s Bad Fur Day.

Jacob: I just know about that game.

Spencer: While I’ve never played that version, I have played its remastered version on the original Xbox.

Kaede: Yeah.

Spencer: Conker: Live & Reloaded I think it’s called. Oh yeah, it is. That’s the name of it.

Kaede: I first got introduced to Conker when I was a kid and I actually drew a picture of him when I was in elementary school. I don’t know where it went, but he was in a notebook, like a composition notebook.

Spencer: Huh.

Kaede: And it turned out pretty good.

Spencer: Let me guess, you were introduced to him by what? Diddy Kong Racing?

Kaede: No.

Spencer: Oh.

Kaede: I was introduced to him by my brother and my step sister, Rebecca. They were playing the game, the grown up version of the game…

Spencer: Conker’s Bad Fur Day.

Kaede: Yeah. It’s such a funny game. But it’s pretty much mature.

Spencer: Yeah. I think it really was rated mature.

Kaede: Yes. It was.

Spencer: Like I just said, I was introduced to Conker through Diddy Kong Racing. Yeah, it’s been years since I played it. So I can’t exactly remember. But from what I do remember, it was kind of fun for what it is.

Kaede: Yeah. And I remember some of the first games my brother got, when he got his Nintendo 64. He got Pokemon Stadium one and Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. I remember hearing that one time, when they were fighting the first boss, they had to stay up all night to fight the first boss, until they defeated it.

Spencer: Huh.

Kaede: When they first got it.

Spencer: Yeah. Honestly I never really played Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

Jacob: I have Legend of Zelda games I play.

Kaede: Yeah. It’s a good series too.

Jacob: Of every video game franchise, my favorite one is Mario. What’s your favorite video game franchise?

Kaede: Oh, mine is the Tales series. I dream of working with them. What about yours Spencer?

Spencer: Honestly, it’s kind of hard to say. I want to say the Pokemon franchise. Well, yeah, let’s just go with that. That’s always been one of my all time favorite franchises.

Kaede: And what mine has to do with Nintendo. My favorite franchise with Nintendo is Animal Crossing.

Spencer: Yeah. Animal crossing.

Jacob: I used to play that when I had the DS. Then I gave the DS away.

Kaede: Oh yeah. I first played it on GameCube.

Spencer: Yeah. Same here.

Kaede: Yeah. I remember one time I left it running for like hours and just when I first started playing it, I went home for the day. I left it running for hours just to go outside to play and I completely forgot about the game. And when I unpaused it turned dark.

Spencer: Well, I mean, that’s the only game on the GameCube that really does run on real time, so…

Kaede: Yeah. I’ve been playing Animal Crossing since the GameCube version.

Spencer: Yeah. Same here.

Jacob: I only had the DS version. I never had a GameCube.

Kaede: I understand. But now I play the Switch version.

Jacob: You have the Animal Crossing version on Switch?

Kaede: Yeah. I have the Nintendo Switch version of Animal Crossing, which is New Horizons.

Jacob: I don’t have that, but I know about it.

Kaede: Yeah, you should get it. It’s such a good game. And I also discovered that Animal Crossing can help with social skills.

Jacob: How could that help with social skills?

Kaede: Well, Animal Crossing, think of it as the golden rule. You treat others how you want to be treated. You do nice things for the animals and they do nice things back for you.

Jacob: I didn’t know Animal Crossing can teach about social skills.

Kaede: Yeah. I love doing nice things to animals in Animal Crossing. I’ve actually got a lot of stuff in return.

Jacob: So you said that Animal Crossing, that helps with social skills.

Kaede: Yes.

Jacob: Treat people the way you want to be treated.

Kaede: Yes, exactly.

Jacob: Have you ever heard this thing called, if you don’t have anything nice to say, you shouldn’t say anything?

Kaede: Right. I have.

Jacob: You know about that?

Kaede: Yes.

Jacob: You know where that came from?

Kaede: Where?

Jacob: I thought you’d know where that came from.

Kaede: I don’t think I remember, but I’ve heard it a long time ago.

Spencer: That might have been one of those things that you’ve heard somewhere before, but just don’t know where it came from.

Jacob: The thing is, if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything.

Kaede: Right.

Jacob: After what you did in Animal Crossing, you were given stuff back to you for what you did.

Kaede: Yes. I’ve been nice. Very nice. And also I’ve been helping animals out with favors and stuff. And sometimes they give me what I don’t need.

Jacob: Do you still accept it?

Kaede: Yeah. I still accept it and I sell it.

Spencer: Well that’s because they always give you things that you could actually buy from, I don’t know, Tom Nook Stores.

Kaede: Yeah. Or something.

Spencer: Yeah. That’s why I don’t really run errands for them. Cause to me, I always find those kinds of items fairly useless, unless you’re trying to complete your catalog.

Kaede: Yeah. I totally understand. But either way I sell the useless items or give them away.

Spencer: Yeah. That’s what I’ve kind of been doing ever since I played the very first Animal Crossing game.

Kaede: Yeah?

Spencer: Yeah. I know that those kinds of things don’t really give out a lot of money, but at least it’s something.

Kaede: Yeah. Better than nothing.

Spencer: Yeah, true.

Jacob: If you could pick one video game that you really like, which one’s your favorite?

Kaede: Out of Nintendo?

Jacob: Of any kind, whether it’s Nintendo Switch or 64.

Kaede: Oh, that’s a hard question for me.

Jacob: What about you, Spencer?

Spencer: Depends. When it comes to Nintendo games?

Jacob: Of any video game, whether it’s Nintendo Switch or 64 or GameCube.

Spencer: I don’t know. It’s kind of hard to say.

Jacob: Of every video game I choose that’s my favorite video game is Mario Party Superstars.

Kaede: Yeah.

Spencer: Oh, the most recent one.

Kaede: I remember how Tales of Symphonia, my brother got me into Tales of Symphonia, which is part of the Tales series. It was my first Tales game I’ve ever been introduced to. It is such an awesome game. It was on the GameCube when my brother played it and he was borrowing it from a neighbor. And it was a really good game. And they even came out with a sequel Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World for the Wii. And then they remastered it on the PS3. Yeah, I like both of the Tales of Symphonia games.

Spencer: Yeah. I really haven’t played any of those Tales of Symphonia games.

Kaede: I understand. It’s okay.

Spencer: Huh.

Kaede: Also I discovered that Tales of the Abyss has been remastered onto the 3DS. It was originally on PlayStation 2. They’re both good games. Both Tales of Symphonia and Tales of the Abyss. And I love those games. Nowadays, I use emulators for old games, including Nintendo 64 games. Well, everybody. It’s been fun. And I’m Kaede from the Autism News NetWORK. And this is one part down of my podcast.

Kaede: In the WhatsApp, I’m Kaede from the Autism News NetWORK. And I’m here with Jacob.

Jacob: Hi everybody.

Kaede: I’m here with Spencer.

Spencer: Hi.

Kaede: And I’m also here with Lee as our sound engineer. He may pop in with some ideas or something.

Lee: What’s up?

Kaede: Alright. For now, the subject will be Nintendo 64, if that’s okay.

Spencer: That’s actually fair enough.

Jacob: That could be the subject if you’d like.

Kaede: Oh yes. Anyway, I played Nintendo 64. My brother Harrison, he’s had a Nintendo 64 ever since he was a kid and he wouldn’t let me play it when he first got it, because it was brand new and I was just a little kid. And nowadays, the Nintendo 64 has gone extinct, but the games have been renewed on the Nintendo Switch.

Spencer: Yeah. Under like some membership app or?

Kaede: Yeah, probably.

Spencer: Yeah. I think that’s what I’ve heard is that Nintendo officially released them on some app only for the Nintendo 64.

Jacob: And Nintendo 64s are impossible to find now because they’re so old.

Kaede: Yes. But there’s also emulators, which is great. I have a Nintendo 64 emulator called Project 64 on my computer and you can play any Nintendo 64 game with Project 64 on your computer. Especially if you have a controller or something, I use a PS4 controller or something.

Spencer: That just takes the fun out of it in my opinion.

Kaede: What do you mean?

Spencer: Oh, reason why I say that is because I just feel like you’re cheated out of the original, authentic experience. Hence the reason why I still use my Nintendo 64 as the only real, and I put that in quotation marks, real way of playing any or all games released on the Nintendo 64.

Kaede: I understand. But I think there is such thing as USB Nintendo 64 controllers.

Spencer: It could be possible, yeah. But honestly, like I said, I’d be cheating myself out of the original, authentic experience.

Kaede: Yeah. I totally understand. But for nostalgic reasons I use emulators and I’d say that whoever invented emulators is such a brilliant genius, especially if they’re nostalgic like me and other people too.

Spencer: Yeah. Don’t get me wrong, I can be very nostalgic when it comes to playing any game on the Nintendo 64. But honestly, as a kid, I always preferred to use the first PlayStation over anything else. My thing, because that’s just in my opinion, technologically superior in some ways over Nintendo 64 itself.

Kaede: Yeah. And also Nintendo 64 had some sort of odd controller set up, which was kind of hard to use for some people.

Jacob: I used to have a Nintendo 64 years ago, but I donated that.

Kaede: Oh wow.

Jacob: I also had a PS2, but I donated that after I got a Nintendo Switch.

Kaede: Oh, wow.

Spencer: Yeah. Honestly I still have my Nintendo 64.

Kaede: Yeah I do too. But we don’t play it anymore.

Spencer: On rare occasions, I do play it. And if I do, then it would be one of the very first Mario Party games I ever played, that being Mario Party 3.

Kaede: Yeah. And does anybody have any favorites on Nintendo 64?

Spencer: Honestly, I don’t truly play a lot of games on Nintendo 64 growing up. And because of that, I really can’t decide on what is my all time favorite.

Kaede: Well, I can tell you what mine was.

Jacob: Well what’s that?

Kaede: One of mine was Banjo-Kazooie. It’s a rare masterpiece. I love rare games.

Spencer: Yeah. I could see why.

Kaede: Yeah. Because Banjo-Kazooie is such a good game.

Spencer: Yeah. That’s actually one of the games that first introduced me to open world platforming.

Kaede: Yeah.

Spencer: That and along with Super Mario 64.

Kaede: Oh yeah. I remember that game too.

Spencer: I mean, don’t get me wrong. Both of those games are fun in their own right. But honestly, I can’t really decide between the two games.

Kaede: I understand.

Spencer: To this day. I still own Banjo-Kazooie but I hardly ever play it now. Not exactly sure why though. Oh yeah. That’s right. Like I said, personal preferences, personally, still play the first PlayStation to this day and oh gosh. Trying to think of another reason why. I think it’s like what you said earlier, the controllers just were shaped so weird though.

Kaede: Yeah. I remember that. They’re kind of oddly shaped, but I don’t mean to make fun of anybody. Not even Nintendo. Cause they’re a good company.

Jacob: They’re one of the best companies in the world.

Kaede: Yes, they really are.

Spencer: I always thought of them as the more innovative companies.

Kaede: Yeah?

Spencer: Yeah. I mean, don’t get me wrong, they can make great games, but actually no, I think I’ll just leave it at that. They do make great games. But they can make great games. That’s what I’m trying to say.

Kaede: Yeah. They make awesome games.

Jacob: They make the best Mario games.

Kaede: Yeah. And they’re the inventor of Mario games.

Jacob: They make the best Sonic games.

Spencer: Sonic is owned by Sega.

Kaede: Yeah. But they adopted Sega for Super Smash Brothers Brawl.

Spencer: Never knew that. I mean, that Sega and Nintendo kind of came to an agreement.

Jacob: Yeah. I was referring to that.

Spencer: Yeah. Along with Mario and Sonic at the Olympic games franchise.

Kaede: Yeah.

Spencer: But when it comes to adopting one or the other, I just never knew that.

Kaede: Yeah. Anyway, I’m trying to think of another thing to talk about in [inaudible 00:06:38] Oh, GameShark. I remember doing a little comic about how to use the GameShark, if anybody knows what that is.

Spencer: I do, but I think that my brother owned that at one point for either the GameBoy Color or the GameBoy Advance.

Jacob: I’ve never heard of the GameShark. What’s that?

Kaede: It’s like a cheating thing where you can play, where you can just screw around with it, and add cheats and stuff.

Spencer: Yeah.

Kaede: Like for example, you could levitate and run fast. I did a little comic based off Banjo-Kazooie, on how to use the GameShark, but I didn’t know how it was used correctly. I did that comic me after watching a video about how to use the GameShark in Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

Spencer: Like I said, I only used it on the GameBoy. I can’t remember which, but I know that I used one of my very first Pokemon games on one of the consoles. And I think that you were right though. Because I can’t exactly remember, but I think that I wanted to complete my Pokedex at the time.

Kaede: I understand. And some people cheat just to get through the game or have fun and stuff.

Spencer: Huh.

Kaede: Well, levitation cheat is one of my favorites. It’s pretty funny. Especially in Banjo because then when Banjo goes, he goes, [inaudible 00:08:10]. He just does a slippery fall. I love that animation when he goes upwards like that. It’s so funny. Banjo-Kazooie is a masterpiece. And also, Project 64 is a good emulator for Nintendo 64 games. I play it on my computer and I also use a controller to play the Nintendo 64 games.

Spencer: Yeah. I’m sure that using a different controller from the Nintendo 64 is easier.

Kaede: There are some funny glitches in Nintendo 64 games. Some of the glitches can be pretty useful too.

Jacob: I see.

Kaede: Yeah, like on Donkey Kong 64, where you have to get a golden banana and it’s in a time limit. There’s this glitch called Chunky’s Hive I think. You have to be big Chunky in it and he falls through the ceiling and a banana. He falls through the level and he makes it to the platform I think. I don’t remember exactly how it went, but I think you have to be big Chunky and you have to jump onto the hive where Tiny goes into and they eventually fall through it. It’s a pretty useful glitch.

Jacob: Yeah. Those Nintendo 64 games get upgraded to different versions on the Nintendo Switch.

Kaede: Yeah. And there are some also other unique Nintendo 64 games like Conker’s Bad Fur Day.

Jacob: I just know about that game.

Spencer: While I’ve never played that version, I have played its remastered version on the original Xbox.

Kaede: Yeah.

Spencer: Conker: Live & Reloaded I think it’s called. Oh yeah, it is. That’s the name of it.

Kaede: I first got introduced to Conker when I was a kid and I actually drew a picture of him when I was in elementary school. I don’t know where it went, but he was in a notebook, like a composition notebook.

Spencer: Huh.

Kaede: And it turned out pretty good.

Spencer: Let me guess, you were introduced to him by what? Diddy Kong Racing?

Kaede: No.

Spencer: Oh.

Kaede: I was introduced to him by my brother and my step sister, Rebecca. They were playing the game, the grown up version of the game…

Spencer: Conker’s Bad Fur Day.

Kaede: Yeah. It’s such a funny game. But it’s pretty much mature.

Spencer: Yeah. I think it really was rated mature.

Kaede: Yes. It was.

Spencer: Like I just said, I was introduced to Conker through Diddy Kong Racing. Yeah, it’s been years since I played it. So I can’t exactly remember. But from what I do remember, it was kind of fun for what it is.

Kaede: Yeah. And I remember some of the first games my brother got, when he got his Nintendo 64. He got Pokemon Stadium one and Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. I remember hearing that one time, when they were fighting the first boss, they had to stay up all night to fight the first boss, until they defeated it.

Spencer: Huh.

Kaede: When they first got it.

Spencer: Yeah. Honestly I never really played Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

Jacob: I have Legend of Zelda games I play.

Kaede: Yeah. It’s a good series too.

Jacob: Of every video game franchise, my favorite one is Mario. What’s your favorite video game franchise?

Kaede: Oh, mine is the Tales series. I dream of working with them. What about yours Spencer?

Spencer: Honestly, it’s kind of hard to say. I want to say the Pokemon franchise. Well, yeah, let’s just go with that. That’s always been one of my all time favorite franchises.

Kaede: And what mine has to do with Nintendo. My favorite franchise with Nintendo is Animal Crossing.

Spencer: Yeah. Animal crossing.

Jacob: I used to play that when I had the DS. Then I gave the DS away.

Kaede: Oh yeah. I first played it on GameCube.

Spencer: Yeah. Same here.

Kaede: Yeah. I remember one time I left it running for like hours and just when I first started playing it, I went home for the day. I left it running for hours just to go outside to play and I completely forgot about the game. And when I unpaused it turned dark.

Spencer: Well, I mean, that’s the only game on the GameCube that really does run on real time, so…

Kaede: Yeah. I’ve been playing Animal Crossing since the GameCube version.

Spencer: Yeah. Same here.

Jacob: I only had the DS version. I never had a GameCube.

Kaede: I understand. But now I play the Switch version.

Jacob: You have the Animal Crossing version on Switch?

Kaede: Yeah. I have the Nintendo Switch version of Animal Crossing, which is New Horizons.

Jacob: I don’t have that, but I know about it.

Kaede: Yeah, you should get it. It’s such a good game. And I also discovered that Animal Crossing can help with social skills.

Jacob: How could that help with social skills?

Kaede: Well, Animal Crossing, think of it as the golden rule. You treat others how you want to be treated. You do nice things for the animals and they do nice things back for you.

Jacob: I didn’t know Animal Crossing can teach about social skills.

Kaede: Yeah. I love doing nice things to animals in Animal Crossing. I’ve actually got a lot of stuff in return.

Jacob: So you said that Animal Crossing, that helps with social skills.

Kaede: Yes.

Jacob: Treat people the way you want to be treated.

Kaede: Yes, exactly.

Jacob: Have you ever heard this thing called, if you don’t have anything nice to say, you shouldn’t say anything?

Kaede: Right. I have.

Jacob: You know about that?

Kaede: Yes.

Jacob: You know where that came from?

Kaede: Where?

Jacob: I thought you’d know where that came from.

Kaede: I don’t think I remember, but I’ve heard it a long time ago.

Spencer: That might have been one of those things that you’ve heard somewhere before, but just don’t know where it came from.

Jacob: The thing is, if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything.

Kaede: Right.

Jacob: After what you did in Animal Crossing, you were given stuff back to you for what you did.

Kaede: Yes. I’ve been nice. Very nice. And also I’ve been helping animals out with favors and stuff. And sometimes they give me what I don’t need.

Jacob: Do you still accept it?

Kaede: Yeah. I still accept it and I sell it.

Spencer: Well that’s because they always give you things that you could actually buy from, I don’t know, Tom Nook Stores.

Kaede: Yeah. Or something.

Spencer: Yeah. That’s why I don’t really run errands for them. Cause to me, I always find those kinds of items fairly useless, unless you’re trying to complete your catalog.

Kaede: Yeah. I totally understand. But either way I sell the useless items or give them away.

Spencer: Yeah. That’s what I’ve kind of been doing ever since I played the very first Animal Crossing game.

Kaede: Yeah?

Spencer: Yeah. I know that those kinds of things don’t really give out a lot of money, but at least it’s something.

Kaede: Yeah. Better than nothing.

Spencer: Yeah, true.

Jacob: If you could pick one video game that you really like, which one’s your favorite?

Kaede: Out of Nintendo?

Jacob: Of any kind, whether it’s Nintendo Switch or 64.

Kaede: Oh, that’s a hard question for me.

Jacob: What about you, Spencer?

Spencer: Depends. When it comes to Nintendo games?

Jacob: Of any video game, whether it’s Nintendo Switch or 64 or GameCube.

Spencer: I don’t know. It’s kind of hard to say.

Jacob: Of every video game I choose that’s my favorite video game is Mario Party Superstars.

Kaede: Yeah.

Spencer: Oh, the most recent one.

Kaede: I remember how Tales of Symphonia, my brother got me into Tales of Symphonia, which is part of the Tales series. It was my first Tales game I’ve ever been introduced to. It is such an awesome game. It was on the GameCube when my brother played it and he was borrowing it from a neighbor. And it was a really good game. And they even came out with a sequel Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World for the Wii. And then they remastered it on the PS3. Yeah, I like both of the Tales of Symphonia games.

Spencer: Yeah. I really haven’t played any of those Tales of Symphonia games.

Kaede: I understand. It’s okay.

Spencer: Huh.

Kaede: Also I discovered that Tales of the Abyss has been remastered onto the 3DS. It was originally on PlayStation 2. They’re both good games. Both Tales of Symphonia and Tales of the Abyss. And I love those games. Nowadays, I use emulators for old games, including Nintendo 64 games. Well, everybody. It’s been fun. And I’m Kaede from the Autism News NetWORK. And this is one part down of my podcast.

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